Thursday, October 16, 2008

Fairer sex is also the crueler sex - III

this is part III - click here to read part 1 of this topic

click here to rad part II of this topic


Praveen
but if its comparing an evil man and an evil woman, thn i think they are evenly matched!

Like Indira Gandhi & Bal Thackeray?
 Oct 15 (23 hours ago)
Praveen
The only thing I would like change in that would be, women are capable of exhibiting cruelty in very extreme cases.

I bet women would love to think so, but the perception of extreme cases varies diversely.

I was once interested in a girl who would quite often get angry if I did not accord her utmost attention when with her & she always said that she would get angry at me because my behavior was extremely annoying .

Thank goodness I had a "Short Compassion Span"
 Oct 15 (21 hours ago)
SURYA~~~I CANT
Maybe women are more PASSIONATE(in whatever way)about their relationships than men are.....Aren't they?........
 Oct 15 (19 hours ago)
Praveen
Maybe women are more PASSIONATE(in whatever way)about their relationships than men are.....Aren't they?........

It wasn't even a relationship per se, dude. Anyways I always found motors, batteries, electronic/electric junk in my scrapyard....sorry.....room, more interesting than most girls I met.













Probably a reason why I am still a virgin in spite of having crushes right from the age of 3  
 Oct 15 (19 hours ago)
Eva
Like Indira Gandhi & Bal Thackeray?
.....
i was thinking in terms of serial killers or some such thing!( like what was that movie, cant rememebr the name, abt a killer couple, the female lead played by salma hayek)
 Oct 15 (18 hours ago)
SURYA~~~I CANT
Poor surya.....

For all my talk supporting women,I havent had the oppurtunity to talk one on one with a girl so far?....
 Oct 15 (18 hours ago)
Dhakka Laga Buka
Surya
Mate, girls don't follow the same simple algorithm that guys do. Thats why they can be very unpredictable. Don't always expect straight behavior from them. In fact, I'll suggest don't expect anything from girls. When you expect you'll be left longing and hurt.
 Oct 15 (18 hours ago)
Praveen
In fact, I'll suggest don't expect anything from girls. When you expect you'll be left longing and hurt.

Exactly. Spot on. No expecting logic & rationality (sense in general) from most of them, but that's what attracts us to them, right?
 Oct 15 (17 hours ago)
SURYA~~~I CANT
ameya and praveen
LOTS OF EXPERIENCE TALKING I SUPPOSE................

I better listen to you.....
 8:46 am (8 hours ago)
Eva
guys! kids! *shakes her head in wonder* 

Fairer sex is also the crueler sex - II

this is part II - click here to read part 1 of this topic


Praveen
Fairer sex is also the crueler sex and also the kinder sex

As I said before, I can't objectively conclude that - Women rarely initiate wars (save for a certain Indira Gandhi) or indulge in mass murders or genocides, Oh no sir, they are more subtle than that .

On the other hand, I don't think Buddha, Mahavira, Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela belonged to the fairer sex either.




Maybe we can observe this - Men are more cruel & kinder than women in social sense (mass movements, revolutions, war etc). Women seem to be more cruel & kinder than men in personal sense or limited social sense (Eg: Personal relationships).

Any tweaking to be done?
 Oct 14 (2 days ago)
Praveen
The only reason why we hear many women culprits(as you see them)is thaT women SUFFER SILENTLY whereas men TRUMPHET as if no one suffers....

I disagree. The reason women suffer less heart problems & generally live longer than their spouses (men in general) is because they DO NOT suffer silently, they generally let it out of their actions, social politics, mouths, hands, eyes & occasionally legs too
 Oct 14 (2 days ago)
Dhakka Laga Buka
@Praveen
For a change, I'm agreeing with everything you've said so far
 Oct 15 (1 day ago)
This is a
Why ? Do they like SM ?
 Oct 15 (1 day ago)
Eva

 Oct 15 (1 day ago)
ĊåŞ
Praveen
I repeat, I repeat you are correct
 Oct 15 (1 day ago)
Swati
Maybe we can observe this - Men are more cruel & kinder than women in social sense (mass movements, revolutions, war etc). Women seem to be more cruel & kinder than men in personal sense or limited social sense (Eg: Personal relationships).

Well put.
True.

Uhmmm..reminds me of a saying.."hell hath no fury as a women scorned" ..lolz!
 Oct 15 (1 day ago)
Praveen
"hell hath no fury as a women scorned"

You unwittingly seem to want to prove that women are more cruel than men?
 Oct 15 (23 hours ago)
Swati
You unwittingly seem to want to prove that women are more cruel than men?

No.

I was merely stating a saying which popped in my mind regarding all this talk.

Infact my earlier post stated that both men & women are equally capable of exhibiting degress of kindness and cruelty.
What you posted made sense. The only thing I would like change in that would be, women are capable of exhibiting cruelty in very extreme cases.

And from what I have read, it is moreover always justified..I know this is debatable but it is something that I have read and cannot conclusively say.
 Oct 15 (23 hours ago)
Eva
If the crewely of a good natured man and a goood natured woman is compared, then yes the woman tends to be more cruel. cause she is the weaker sex and needs to resort to manupulation to get her end.

but if its comparing an evil man and an evil woman, thn i think they are evenly matched!

Fairer sex is also the crueler sex

A discussion I got from web. What do you think??
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The root of cruelty can be traced to insensitivity. So whenever a person displays insensitivity towards other person's feelings, he/she can be said to be displaying cruelty in one form.

The myth is that women are more emotional, sensitive and soft as compared to men. But the reality is something else. Men are only used to or trained to not display their emotions openly whereas women do it very easily. It doesn't necessarily make women more emotional and sensitive than men.

A few days ago, me and my friend were talking about people whom we knew were into a love relationship. We came to a common observation that in so many cases, the girl got married to another guy, and after that completely got over this relationship they had and now lives happily in her new married life. Where as the guy couldn't get out of it. In some cases it has been 7-8 years that the guy hasn't been able to come out of it. This displays certain amount of insensitivity and cruelty.

I remember reading a few months ago in a magazine about an experiment they had conducted in the US military. People were asked to do more and more cruel things. After a certain point it was impossible for men to do the things however the women continued the things and progressed further.

These things make us wonder that should we stick on to the myth that we've been holding all these days, or should we embrace the truth?
 Oct 14


ĊåŞ
This displays certain amount of insensitivity and
cruelty ....

How on earth have you come to such a conclusion?????

You have made a giant leap here haven't you????
Oct 14

SURYA~~~I CANT
Dhaka laga....
The reply you proposed to counter the myth is intself a MYTH....

I feel that there all the characters,habits that you attribute to a particular sex can never and should never be applied on individual basis......An individual's character,habits are determined by the environment that he/she lives in and the upbringing and the circumstances...

STEREOTYPING men's and women's virtues AND CATEGORISING certain attributes as that of womens' and mens' has limits...
 Oct 14


SURYA~~~I CANT
By the way the so-called TESTS AND SURVEYS to determine characteristics suck....

how on earth can a test performed on a 1000 men or women detremine the general viewpoint...I detest them more often more so BECAUSE they aggravate the view some people have that psychology is pseudo...
 Oct 14

SURYA~~~I CANT
as for the story....
It is common trend nowadays for INDIAN MEN to cry hoarse and complain that women today dont take their LOVE LIFES seriously and are spoilt...

But the fact is that BREAKUP in relationships are common nowadays and there are as much MEN as there are women of the type you mentioned here..

The only reason why we hear many women culprits(as you see them)is thaT women SUFFER SILENTLY whereas men TRUMPHET as if no one suffers....

I know of a personal story too..My sisters' friends loved each other for a period of time..but the boy felt otherwise about marrying each other...He now talks to her as if she were another person.....but the girl suffers silently...
 Oct 14


rajesh jha
Fairer sex is also the crueler sex and also the kinder sex
 Oct 14

Swati
I agree with Surya.
You cannot generalise.
Stereotyping based on a couple of incidents or surveys is not a very sensible exercise !
Anywyz, as far as the topic is concerned both men & women are equally capable of cruelty and kindness. There is no 'more' or no 'less' in this.
It depends on person to person, human to human..for the degress of kindness and cruelty he/she exhibits.
 Oct 14 (2 days ago)

Fire.Bird
since women understand emotions better than men( n hence know how to distort them to taheir advantange), i somehow agree that the 'Fairer sex is also the crueler sex'
 Oct 14 (2 days ago)

ĊåŞ
Nice Hair Fire
 Oct 14

Praveen
Technically speaking I can't make a conclusion that the fairer sex is also the crueler sex. Personally speaking I have always observed that the fairer sex has been the crueler sex & worse does not even recognize the cruelty.

The topic starter must know that women are said to be more emotionally *Intelligent* than men. So when they said emotionally *Intelligent* they did not, repeat DID NOT mean *more* emotional, just more emotionally ***INTELLIGENT*** - Get my drift???